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if they didn't do that, then they have no excuse based on the civil liberties of law. a lot of conflict between the people and the police. a lot of bombings. two, three, four, a month. all the time that he was back. he was in the middle of all this and we don't know enough information about what he was up to. who he was talking to. we don't know anything. the fbi had this guy right in their sights. >> well, time and time again when we look at terrorist subjects radicalized in the west one of the common features is the overseas travel. they may go overseas seeking sanction. they may go overseas for training. they may go overseas because they want to help the fighters. when the individuals come back from pakistan, afghanistan, yemen, somalia, chechnya, russia, that's a point that deserves more scrutiny, to find out what did the individuals do overseas. otherwise you may have a boston event. times square bombing. 2010. individual goes to pakistan. lost track on the radar. comes back to times square in a vehicle to deliver an attack. >> it's much easier to do it if he's no
if they didn't do that, then they have no excuse based on the civil liberties of law. a lot of conflict between the people and the police. a lot of bombings. two, three, four, a month. all the time that he was back. he was in the middle of all this and we don't know enough information about what he was up to. who he was talking to. we don't know anything. the fbi had this guy right in their sights. >> well, time and time again when we look at terrorist subjects radicalized in the west one...
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officials as well as local law enforcement were finally able to arrest and take into custody nineteen year old just outside nine of the second suspect in the boston bombings case of course on monday afternoon two bombs went off seconds apart from each other at the finishing line of the boston marathon and this entire week there has been a manhunt after the two brothers that were seen as suspects in this case now this friday night officials were able to find the younger brother who was in hiding in a dry docked boat in the town of watertown just minutes away from boston a local had informed officials that he had seen a man covered in blood and they were able to through a helicopter that had that had heat signature technology be able to track down the young man even though he was covered up in the boat standoff between him and the police lasted for several hours and eventually they were able to arrest him and take into custody we do know that he is in serious medical condition and has been taken to a hospital in boston now to talk a little bit more about the identities of the two brothe
officials as well as local law enforcement were finally able to arrest and take into custody nineteen year old just outside nine of the second suspect in the boston bombings case of course on monday afternoon two bombs went off seconds apart from each other at the finishing line of the boston marathon and this entire week there has been a manhunt after the two brothers that were seen as suspects in this case now this friday night officials were able to find the younger brother who was in hiding...
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on the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. there wasn't a case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for my senate colleagues to call for him to be treated that way. >> congressman, thank you very much. >>> up next the attorney for american wife of tamerlan tsarnaev said she had no knowledge of the attacks. does that add up? and the destructive nature of the pressure cooker bomb and what can be done to stop them? we have a special investigation. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announcer ] yes, you could business pro. yes, you could. go national. go like a pro. >>> if you are just joining us, i want to update you on the investigation in to the boston marathon bombings. dzhokh
on the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. there wasn't a case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for my senate colleagues to call for him to be treated that way. >> congressman, thank you very much. >>> up next the attorney for american wife of tamerlan tsarnaev said she had no knowledge of the attacks....
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basically, she would see a lot of her mother-in-law, the brother's mother. she wouldn't see quite as much of dzhokar, the younger brother. anderson, for all the talk of tamerlan being so isolated and not having any american friends, let's remember that he married an american girl named katie from the suburbs of providence, rhode island. so not everything there is square. >> we've talked to a number of people who have said everything is not square. chris, i appreciate the update. more ahead on my interview with a young dance instructor. dance teacher who will not be stopped by what she lost in the bombing. doctors had to amputate her leg several inches below her knee. but she says she is not giving up. >> i look at this as someone trying to stop me from realizing my dreams and i thought that ballroom dancing was something that i was never going to do in dance. it just seemed like it was a tough arena to be in and i've conquered that, and i'm not ready to stop. try zyrtec-d®. powerful relief of nasal congestion and other allergy symptoms -- all in one pill. z
basically, she would see a lot of her mother-in-law, the brother's mother. she wouldn't see quite as much of dzhokar, the younger brother. anderson, for all the talk of tamerlan being so isolated and not having any american friends, let's remember that he married an american girl named katie from the suburbs of providence, rhode island. so not everything there is square. >> we've talked to a number of people who have said everything is not square. chris, i appreciate the update. more...
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networks or whether they were acting alone the reports that we hear in the media and the sources in the law enforcement that they talk to authorities seem to be more inclined to think that they are dealing with homegrown radicalism or are going to try to come from oh thank you very much for bringing this so what we know so far of. well of the identities of the suspects were revealed church leader rooms and responded to say by saying terrorism has no nationality said that the two brothers lost all connection to the church near long ago when they left for america. strongly condemn the boston marathon bombing saying the church and people have been greatly saddened by those twin blasts which killed three and injured over one hundred seventy the other that no acts of terror can be justified. to be true burbage is a political analyst for the voice of russia radio station he says the u.s. and coalition of the suspects has been given too much attention. russian government has wanted a lot about the kind of refugees of all the kind of immigrants that the united states and west european countries are
networks or whether they were acting alone the reports that we hear in the media and the sources in the law enforcement that they talk to authorities seem to be more inclined to think that they are dealing with homegrown radicalism or are going to try to come from oh thank you very much for bringing this so what we know so far of. well of the identities of the suspects were revealed church leader rooms and responded to say by saying terrorism has no nationality said that the two brothers lost...
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that's when law enforcement hand cuffed him. as you look at those pictures, law enforcement was usie ining grenades. hearing tissue may be damaged during the course of this. it is unclear how much he is hearing. clearly not an ideal situation for investigators. doctors are trying to prevent any unnecessary stress to the body. that's why right now the investigators are second dare to what the doctors are trying to accomplish. anderson. >> all right. good information there. appreciate the update on that. we have learned a lot more obviously about these two suspected bombers in the weeks since the tragedy, but one person we have not heard a lot about is catherine russell. she's the wife of the suspect killed in the shootout. they do have a daughter. she's a toddler. what did he say? >> he said she learned about all this from the news reports and at no time new about what her husband was doing before this happened. we also learned that basically she is distraught. he says she's been crying a lot. he says she feels very strongly and
that's when law enforcement hand cuffed him. as you look at those pictures, law enforcement was usie ining grenades. hearing tissue may be damaged during the course of this. it is unclear how much he is hearing. clearly not an ideal situation for investigators. doctors are trying to prevent any unnecessary stress to the body. that's why right now the investigators are second dare to what the doctors are trying to accomplish. anderson. >> all right. good information there. appreciate the...
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law enforcement officer was, sean collier was killed on tuesday night and that murder has not been charged yet at all and we should see the state do more work on that front in the coming days and weeks, we expect. >> as you talk about going forward in all this what do we know of how the process progresses from here? there was that legal hearing on monday. what happens next? >> that was just the very beginning, a complaint was filed. he still will have to appear in court, be indicted and there is a hearing set for may 30th at 10:00 a.m. that the judge mentioned in this hearing monday morning. >> before i let you go, erin what do we know about legal defense? did he have legal representation in that hospital room? >> reporter: i have the transcript of the court hearing here there is controversy on friday and over the weekend about him not being mirandized. they went through it twice today and offered the use of an attorney and the one word he spoke was no when asked if he could afford an attorney and he was presented with defense attorneys today. >>> we want to bring you a look at the case ag
law enforcement officer was, sean collier was killed on tuesday night and that murder has not been charged yet at all and we should see the state do more work on that front in the coming days and weeks, we expect. >> as you talk about going forward in all this what do we know of how the process progresses from here? there was that legal hearing on monday. what happens next? >> that was just the very beginning, a complaint was filed. he still will have to appear in court, be indicted...
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arrested friday night after a mass lockdown an unprecedented manhunt and a several hour shoot outs with law enforcement and joe hart are naive doesn't factor mean a hospital in boston in serious condition the latest that we're hearing is that he is finally a week and officials are being able to ask him certain questions that he's answering sporadically in writing they're trying to find out. whether or not there are more explosive devices that they should be looking into and whether or not certain accomplices might have been involved in the case the details of the answers that your heart and i have as good as giving them are not being provided at this time of course side since people arrested him he has been in a serious medical conditions we know that he has received he's gotten service certain injuries to the throat and was on able to speak while lot of the prosecution is preparing to bring charges against him we know around a rights have been revoked the right to remain silent as well as the right to a lawyer and this is something that the u.s. government has basically revoked from so nai
arrested friday night after a mass lockdown an unprecedented manhunt and a several hour shoot outs with law enforcement and joe hart are naive doesn't factor mean a hospital in boston in serious condition the latest that we're hearing is that he is finally a week and officials are being able to ask him certain questions that he's answering sporadically in writing they're trying to find out. whether or not there are more explosive devices that they should be looking into and whether or not...
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help. >>> to politics now where the newtown families are vowing to keep up the fight for tougher gun laws. one father called the whole thing a political game and said he won't go away. >>> the cokoch brothers are looking into buying "the l.a. times" and "chicago tribune." they invested hundreds of millions of dollars and given them to conservative and liqu libertarian causes. >> on thursday, george w. bush will be at his library but then says he'll step back and stay in touch with relatives includes his new grandchild. >>> president obama will host the white house science fair. last year the big hit was the president checking out the marshmallow cannon. >>> my must read is the story of tamerlan tsarnaev's wife described as the all-american girl. the mother of his young child. it's on our facebook page. what do you think? that's great. it won't take long, will it? nah. okay. this, won't take long will it? no, not at all. how many of these can we do on our budget? more than you think. didn't take very long, did it? this spring, dig in and save. that's nice. post it. already did. more saving
help. >>> to politics now where the newtown families are vowing to keep up the fight for tougher gun laws. one father called the whole thing a political game and said he won't go away. >>> the cokoch brothers are looking into buying "the l.a. times" and "chicago tribune." they invested hundreds of millions of dollars and given them to conservative and liqu libertarian causes. >> on thursday, george w. bush will be at his library but then says he'll...
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law enforcement officials in boston are saying that nineteen year old the boston bombing suspect just hearts or ny is finally awake he's currently at a boston hospital being treated for injuries we're hearing that he is awake and answering officials questions sporadically in writing there asking him about any further possible accomplices in the boston bombings case as well as whether or not any further explosive devices should be of concern to officials but as of yet we're not hearing any details officials are not revealing any details in terms of the answers that is giving them of course all of this comes after he was arrested friday night after a mass lockdown took place in boston after a unprecedented manhunt that took place here and a several hour shootout between law enforcement and this nineteen year old suspect we do know that he suffered so serious injuries in the shootout and has been treated at a local hospital here in boston he suffered injuries to his throat and was unable to speak and this is precisely what officials have been waiting for to be able to communicate with hi
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law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume of evidence in the federal complaint, including description of video after the first explosion. "bomber two virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant appears calm. he glances to the east and then calmly, but rapidly, begins moving to the west. away from the direction of the finish line. he walks away without his knapsack. having left it on the ground where he'd been standing. approximately ten seconds later, an explosion occurs." the complaint also contains details from the carjacking victim who says one of the suspects said to him, "did you hear abou
law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume...
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my stepfather practiced law in these two towns where these men carried these things out. it is horrible and hard for us. i feel that jihadists want to us blame all muslims. pizza religious war. but there is a responsibility. american muslims need to come out more. these people in louisville hold open houses in their mosques so people can see what they do and it is not so shrouded in mystery. more broadly speaking, when we look at the middle east, people see chaos. >> which you've tried to explain in beyond war. you look through the arab spring and you take it country by country. there are big differences in the way tonig way they see them. >> there is this epic struggle for power and for control between conservative muslims. some of them are very violent and more liberal secular ones. and frankly, we need to do a better job of seeing that, what's happening. it is not chaos. this is a very real power struggle and figure out how can we help those moderates. we are less dependent on energy from the middle east. the chinese economy will depend on that oil from the middle east
my stepfather practiced law in these two towns where these men carried these things out. it is horrible and hard for us. i feel that jihadists want to us blame all muslims. pizza religious war. but there is a responsibility. american muslims need to come out more. these people in louisville hold open houses in their mosques so people can see what they do and it is not so shrouded in mystery. more broadly speaking, when we look at the middle east, people see chaos. >> which you've tried to...
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when we return we're going to get into the law of this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev was formally charged today. he'll be prosecuted through the criminal justice system despite republicans who say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. >>> later, the russian connection. we have new details about the older brother, tamerlan, and his six-month trip overseas to russia, that area, as he became increasingly more devout in his religion and radicalism. >>> here in washington, the marathon bombings have already started to change the debate on things like -- you knew this was coming -- immigration. >>> finally, life started to return to normal this weekend in boston. i was up there as the slow healing begins. this is "hardball." as we say up there, "hardball." the place for politics. >>> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was of course, white house spokesman jay carney short by before 1:00 p.m. today making clear the boston suspect will
when we return we're going to get into the law of this case. dzhokhar tsarnaev was formally charged today. he'll be prosecuted through the criminal justice system despite republicans who say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. >>> later, the russian connection. we have new details about the older brother, tamerlan, and his six-month trip overseas to russia, that area, as he became increasingly more devout in his religion and radicalism. >>> here in washington, the...
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law enforcement that we know twist these narratives for their own political agendas remember that this story has changed dramatically over the last few hours i mean going back to three o'clock in the morning when i was watching the live footage of the shootout in watertown to when i woke up this morning the entire narrative has changed and the connection with chechnya and dagestan is particularly interesting remember that we have very deep connections in the u.s. intelligence establishment to some of these organizations. having used that as a base of destabilization against russia so when we're talking about terrorist networks operating out of that region of the caucasus and then you're going to make a connection to a terrorist action in the united states that raises very serious questions about who these people are who they are connected to and what the agenda behind this war was up to all the efforts of the past decade why is it so difficult to stop homegrown terror i mean america went to other countries just to try to do exactly that but it seems to be coming back they'd starting it
law enforcement that we know twist these narratives for their own political agendas remember that this story has changed dramatically over the last few hours i mean going back to three o'clock in the morning when i was watching the live footage of the shootout in watertown to when i woke up this morning the entire narrative has changed and the connection with chechnya and dagestan is particularly interesting remember that we have very deep connections in the u.s. intelligence establishment to...
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. >> should also acknowledge that the former brother-in-law says he has not seen the brothers in two years. so his information is not current for the last two years. he did say that he met a man named misha which is the russian similar of michael, he doesn't know much about this misha person. it's not clear if authorities are looking for this person to talk. one would assume they are. there are conflicting accounts whether bombing suspect tamerlan tsarnaev was on any kind of terrorist watch list of database. we know he was on fbi after russian officials raised red flags. now lawmakers in washington want answers about how authorities handled that case. jim acosta is following that part of the story for us. do we know, jim, whether or not tamerlan tsarnaev was on any kind of watch list? >> anderson, we get report from law enforcement and national security sources telling cnn that tamerlan tsarnaev was on two different databases. let me walk you through this, anderson. the first one is the terrorist screening database also known as the tsdb. that is a database that has roughly 500,000 n
. >> should also acknowledge that the former brother-in-law says he has not seen the brothers in two years. so his information is not current for the last two years. he did say that he met a man named misha which is the russian similar of michael, he doesn't know much about this misha person. it's not clear if authorities are looking for this person to talk. one would assume they are. there are conflicting accounts whether bombing suspect tamerlan tsarnaev was on any kind of terrorist...
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residents te residents terrified as law enforcement went door to door. this is one of the houses where police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. this is eddie beck's house. he took us through what it was like when s.w.a.t. teams came through here. >> they came in and searched the living room area, dining room, went through all of the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen area. >> searched cabinets and things like that? >> they didn't go through cabinets or anything like that but went through bedrooms and closet doors and made their way through the back here. >> reporter: beck shared his footage of the s.w.a.t. teams combing through his house. during these moments, they didn't know where tsarnaev was or whether he was carrying explosives on his body. beck got a chill just knowing about it. >> knowing they had him surrounded and so close to our neighborhood it made us think that he might have been here at nighttime and they flushed him out into that area. >> reporter: vivian stevens lives by herself also very close to the house where tsa
residents te residents terrified as law enforcement went door to door. this is one of the houses where police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. this is eddie beck's house. he took us through what it was like when s.w.a.t. teams came through here. >> they came in and searched the living room area, dining room, went through all of the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen area. >> searched cabinets and things like that? >> they didn't go through cabinets or...
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rule of law. and your property. police stand accused of using human shield tactics that's after they tracked the palestinian scene in front of a crowd of protesters say they only did it to show he was unharmed to calm the anger. and the state for so seize greece put some of its most tragic properties under the hammer tearing the cuts but in nation between necessity and pride our poor home and more still ahead. for me one has wrapped up in bahrain with anti-government protests clashing with police in a bid to disrupt the controversial event security offices stone there is where prior form activists gathered suppressing most opposition marches the protesters had been using the formula one race to draw attention to human rights abuses in the country demanding more international pressure on the ruling family so each abhi from bahrain freedom the movement says the monarchy is trying to distract attention from the level of unrest in the country. if you were. hundred. round the country schools. around two hundred. the proc
rule of law. and your property. police stand accused of using human shield tactics that's after they tracked the palestinian scene in front of a crowd of protesters say they only did it to show he was unharmed to calm the anger. and the state for so seize greece put some of its most tragic properties under the hammer tearing the cuts but in nation between necessity and pride our poor home and more still ahead. for me one has wrapped up in bahrain with anti-government protests clashing with...
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that's the single element i think that runs through all of american law enforcement. when events like this occur, the nation is always reminded you have your bravery, but unfortunately having attended so many funerals and memorial services for law enforcement officers in my career, i not only think of your bravery, but the first thoughts i have is of your families. because every day when you get up and pin on that shield and walk out that door, your husband, your wife, your mother, your father, your brother, your sister, they know -- they know it's naggy that anything could happen. yesterday they assistant with you, they support you, and they have the courage to encourage you. to do what you do. so i want to thank not only sean's family for their willingness to support their brother, their son, taking on this work, but all of your husbands and wives, fathers and mothers, and children, we owe you so much more than just honoring you on days of grief and celebration. there's a line from an english poet keats. he said -- they also serve who only stand and wait. your famil
that's the single element i think that runs through all of american law enforcement. when events like this occur, the nation is always reminded you have your bravery, but unfortunately having attended so many funerals and memorial services for law enforcement officers in my career, i not only think of your bravery, but the first thoughts i have is of your families. because every day when you get up and pin on that shield and walk out that door, your husband, your wife, your mother, your father,...
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law enforcement officials say russia warned the f.b.i. two years ago that one of the suspects was a follower of radical islam more on this now from artie's when asked to see a truck in a near boston. on saturday information has emerged quoting to local law enforcement officials who say that in fact the foreign government that had requested the united states questioned the older brother. was according to them the russian government saying that this older brother should be looked into in terms of his any possible links with extremist groups and from what we know the f.b.i. did in fact question him they took him in for questioning they were in fact tracking his social networking sites for quite some time but as we found out and discovered obviously the f.b.i. did not deem necessary at the time to keep following this young man because they did not find anything suspicious in his behavior back in two thousand and eleven we certainly know that obviously the the arrest of the younger brother took place they're going to try to find out more about
law enforcement officials say russia warned the f.b.i. two years ago that one of the suspects was a follower of radical islam more on this now from artie's when asked to see a truck in a near boston. on saturday information has emerged quoting to local law enforcement officials who say that in fact the foreign government that had requested the united states questioned the older brother. was according to them the russian government saying that this older brother should be looked into in terms of...
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he's communicating with law enforcement by writing. by -- i don't know how he's doing it. >> rose: or nodding in some way? >> he's communicate with them. not ideal circumstance, but that's what he's doing. >> rose: do we know whether it's a cooperative way or not? >> it seems to be cooperative. but, again, i don't have any inside information. we don't know as much as we know. and the older brother really got radicalized in a hurry. >> rose: by a trip back to -- >> no, not -- by the time he made his trip back he was already deeply involved in this. >> rose: so why did he go back? >> well, according to the parents, according to the parents he had to go back in order to renew his passpo and he went back for six months. right now we are at the stage where we don't know his exact whereabouts except for that the parents say that the older brother, tamerlan, stayed with them in dagestan, in the capital city and the father claims-- although the father and mother seem wounded and deluded to say the least about their sons' activities-- say that
he's communicating with law enforcement by writing. by -- i don't know how he's doing it. >> rose: or nodding in some way? >> he's communicate with them. not ideal circumstance, but that's what he's doing. >> rose: do we know whether it's a cooperative way or not? >> it seems to be cooperative. but, again, i don't have any inside information. we don't know as much as we know. and the older brother really got radicalized in a hurry. >> rose: by a trip back to --...
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it's a matter for law enforcement. now on the question of the public safety exception. it is not necessary that the individual be designated an enemy combatant in order for him to be questioned without giving him miranda warnings, the exception emanates from a supreme court decision in the early '80s, called new york versus quarrels. the criminal suspect in that situation was not a terrorist, he was not part of any enemy force. he was arrested in a grocery store in queens. and the police asked him where is the loaded gun. he had a gun with him. they couldn't find it. and for public safety reasons, they needed to find the loaded weapon quickly. and they asked him the questions without mirandaizing him. so the public safety exception is domestic in nature. so it's completely unnecessary to call him an enemy combatant in the first place. >> they had a lot of guns, and this is part of the investigation. how do two brothers in cambridge, mass, get ahold of all of this weaponry, and create these bombs? now low-level, low-tech bombs, be that they were. can they do that all wit
it's a matter for law enforcement. now on the question of the public safety exception. it is not necessary that the individual be designated an enemy combatant in order for him to be questioned without giving him miranda warnings, the exception emanates from a supreme court decision in the early '80s, called new york versus quarrels. the criminal suspect in that situation was not a terrorist, he was not part of any enemy force. he was arrested in a grocery store in queens. and the police asked...
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in the end, law enforcement -- what we're putting together is law enforcement immediately swooped in, evacuated them, brought them it a safe haven, to an unknown neighbor's house and from there, the law enforcement swept in, got this kid in another gun fight and he managed to escape from that gun fight until later they and perfecteded him in another gun fight. >> i'll stop you there. we have new footage of the gun fight you're talking about, really quite dramatic. take a look at this. >> [ bleep ]. [ gunfire ] >> when all this was happening, were you in the knowledge that your parents were safe? or did you think they were still back in the house. >> absolutely. as the bullets were coming across the television, my sister and i were in close communication with each other. we only saw the bullets. we only heard there was a man covered in blood in the boat. we couldn't reach the household. they had already been evacuated, unbeknownst to us. the phone line at the residence for whatever reason, whether it was cut or dropped, it was giving us a busy signal. it was horrifying for approximatel
in the end, law enforcement -- what we're putting together is law enforcement immediately swooped in, evacuated them, brought them it a safe haven, to an unknown neighbor's house and from there, the law enforcement swept in, got this kid in another gun fight and he managed to escape from that gun fight until later they and perfecteded him in another gun fight. >> i'll stop you there. we have new footage of the gun fight you're talking about, really quite dramatic. take a look at this....
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and of course now following the days after the bombings at the finishing line of the boston marathon law enforcement yet again tried to establish any possible links the brothers might have had with extremist groups after monday's bombings late on thursday afternoon the f.b.i. finally released photos of the two suspects the ended up coming out of their. fighting killing an mit officer hijacking a car releasing the person to whom that car belonged and got in a car chase with police the police officers said that the two brothers were throwing explosive devices out of their car and shooting over a dozen police officers were wounded as a result eventually the older brother twenty six year old to milan got out of the car to continue the shootout with the police officers the younger brother stayed in the car ended up running over his older brother getting a win the car which he eventually abandoned and was able to get away on foot in the meantime police officers captured to marilyn and took him to this hospital in boston suffering multiple injuries this is where he died shortly after one thirty
and of course now following the days after the bombings at the finishing line of the boston marathon law enforcement yet again tried to establish any possible links the brothers might have had with extremist groups after monday's bombings late on thursday afternoon the f.b.i. finally released photos of the two suspects the ended up coming out of their. fighting killing an mit officer hijacking a car releasing the person to whom that car belonged and got in a car chase with police the police...
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then one time the older brother is just over a year old now she's found a lot of time with the time of law and when he came to visit his parents to dagestan and she describes him as a really nice family loving and caring young man he talked a lot about his american wife katherine and about their daughter and when i asked her whether she expressed any acts or interest in islam she told me that his interest was never overwhelming the middle and wasn't a religious fanatic she was curious about religion he started to be really interested in islam about three years ago but he was never a radical who would talk about his commitment to religion but it wasn't extreme fighting like was devastated she remembers that just part of the younger brother plan to come to dagestan this may and now their father plans to go to the united states to. see my can believe they were involved in that tragedy. it's impossible to believe that they could carry it out just impossible it's terrible but i can believe it there are children who respected the parents of the terminal on was very attentive to older people to h
then one time the older brother is just over a year old now she's found a lot of time with the time of law and when he came to visit his parents to dagestan and she describes him as a really nice family loving and caring young man he talked a lot about his american wife katherine and about their daughter and when i asked her whether she expressed any acts or interest in islam she told me that his interest was never overwhelming the middle and wasn't a religious fanatic she was curious about...
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that's the single element i think that runs through all of american law enforcement. when events like this occur, the nation is always reminded of your bravery, but unfortunately having attended so many funerals and memorial services for law enforcement officers in my career, i not only think of your bravery, the first thoughts i have are your families. because every day when you get up and pin on that shield and walk out that door, your husband, your wife, your mother, your father, your brother, your sister, they know -- they know it's nagging that anything could happen. yet they stand with you. they support you. and they have the courage to encourage you to do what you do. so i want to thank not only sean's family for their willingness to support their brother, their son taking on this work, but all of your husbands and wives, fathers and mothers and children, we owe you so much more than just honoring you on days of grief and celebrati celebration. there's a line from an english poet he said "they also serve who only stand and wait." your families, they stand and w
that's the single element i think that runs through all of american law enforcement. when events like this occur, the nation is always reminded of your bravery, but unfortunately having attended so many funerals and memorial services for law enforcement officers in my career, i not only think of your bravery, the first thoughts i have are your families. because every day when you get up and pin on that shield and walk out that door, your husband, your wife, your mother, your father, your...
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the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> reporter: so much of a shock that the attorneys say she last saw her husband on thursday when she left for work and that the husband was home with their young daughter. that was, of course, before the fbi released those videos and pictures that set off this manhunt, erin. >> chris, before the video came out but after the act happened. she was living in a very cramped apartment in cambridge. the pictures we've been shown appear to be cluttered. they had explosives, all this stuff going on. how is it possible she lived there and did not know that something was amiss? >> reporter: i think you've hit on the big reason why investigators really want to talk to her as they try to piece together exactly when and where tamerlan may have tried to assemble some of those bombs. the lawyers will say that, a, she didn't speak russian so she didn't always understand everything that was being said. they also say that she spent a lot of time out of the house. sometimes up to six, seven days a week, 7
the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> reporter: so much of a shock that the attorneys say she last saw her husband on thursday when she left for work and that the husband was home with their young daughter. that was, of course, before the fbi released those videos and pictures that set off this manhunt, erin. >> chris, before the video came out but after the act happened. she was living in a very cramped apartment in...
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the combatant laws we don't know that one can be successfully conducted. that's lost in a mar ras in guantanamo bay. this case will take a long time, be expensive and complicated but he's going to trial and there's going to be a verdict. we know that. >> jeff, thank you very much. fran, julia, as well. appreciate it. follow me on twitte twitter @andersoncooper. what do you think? should he be charged in a criminal court opposed to an enemy combatant? >>> and we will dig in to the case. the older suspect spent last year in parts of dagestan and chechnya. and the older suspect's widow. what we know about her and their relationship and more importantly what the fbi wants to know from her tonight. >>> later, my interview was remarkable woman. i hope you stick around for this. she a dance instructor whose body was broken. she had to have part of her leg amputated below the knee but her spirit is certainly not broken. >> i woke up and my parents were there and i said i feel like my foot is falling asleep. it feels like my ankle is falling off of the pillow and m
the combatant laws we don't know that one can be successfully conducted. that's lost in a mar ras in guantanamo bay. this case will take a long time, be expensive and complicated but he's going to trial and there's going to be a verdict. we know that. >> jeff, thank you very much. fran, julia, as well. appreciate it. follow me on twitte twitter @andersoncooper. what do you think? should he be charged in a criminal court opposed to an enemy combatant? >>> and we will dig in to the...
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whether it would be a proper under the law, is an open question. they couldn't use any of the material that they illicited from him, but maybe they don't need it. they may also reindict him. >> well, they wouldn't use the inform in the criminal case against him but could use it to get to a wider group. >> oh no question. can you use it against anybody else. you only can't use it against this defendant. and they may be able to obtain such information. and if so, they might reindict him under the terrorist statute. it is a little odd that everybody regards this guy as a terrorist except the united states government. which has indicted him under ordinary murder statute that carries the death penalty. but often we see a second indictment following the first indictment, if more information comes forward. once he get's a lawyer and he says to his lawyer, by the way, i lied to the authorities. i really know a lot more, the lawyer might say, that's your best ammunition. why don't we now tell the federal government we really have more information and try to
whether it would be a proper under the law, is an open question. they couldn't use any of the material that they illicited from him, but maybe they don't need it. they may also reindict him. >> well, they wouldn't use the inform in the criminal case against him but could use it to get to a wider group. >> oh no question. can you use it against anybody else. you only can't use it against this defendant. and they may be able to obtain such information. and if so, they might reindict...
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and many cheered the law enforcement officials that successfully tracked him down. the suspect's brother, tamerlan tsarnaev was killed earlier after a gunfight with police. he left behind dreams of becoming a world-class boxer, and we found a youtube page in his name linked to islamic websites. and then tamerlan tsarnaev was quoted as saying i don't have a single american friend. i don't understand them. he and his brother are from the russian caucuses, an area that includes the war-torn regions of chechnya and dagestan. the younger brother became a u.s. citizen on september 11th of last year, and tamerlan followed and got a green card. dzhokhar won a scholarship before enrolling at the university of massachusetts. and people we spoke to said they never saw any signs of trouble. >> regular teenager. did not suspect anything. he was on the wrestling team. went to parties with other students. yeah. he went to the prom. >> he was a wonderful kid. we were proud of him. he was an outstanding athlete. he was -- there is nothing -- you know, he was never a troublemaker in
and many cheered the law enforcement officials that successfully tracked him down. the suspect's brother, tamerlan tsarnaev was killed earlier after a gunfight with police. he left behind dreams of becoming a world-class boxer, and we found a youtube page in his name linked to islamic websites. and then tamerlan tsarnaev was quoted as saying i don't have a single american friend. i don't understand them. he and his brother are from the russian caucuses, an area that includes the war-torn...
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law enforcement authorities, interpol saying they have told all of their law enforcement members across 190-member countries to detect any similarly configured bombs, similar to the bombs that were used at the boston marathon. this interpol, orange notice as it's called, also includes the fingerprints of the two suspects, and other information provided by the fbi. this has been made available to world police authorities. the decision by the fbi and u.s. authorities, it goes on to explain, that july yet -- give us some context what this means. an orange alert by interpol to search for similarly crafted bombs, as the ones used in the boston marathon. >> so, while everything seems abnormal today, there are actually normal protocols that goes on when this happens in any country. this happened after the july 7th attacks in london. there's a device, people used in the united states, in a city, it goes around to international police organizations, and all throughout the world saying, hey, you know, there may be devices that others are planning similarly. and it does not mean we know there are,
law enforcement authorities, interpol saying they have told all of their law enforcement members across 190-member countries to detect any similarly configured bombs, similar to the bombs that were used at the boston marathon. this interpol, orange notice as it's called, also includes the fingerprints of the two suspects, and other information provided by the fbi. this has been made available to world police authorities. the decision by the fbi and u.s. authorities, it goes on to explain, that...
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>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow that way. i don't think this is any way should be relegated -- not relegated, but elevated to something on enemy combatant status. this is a crime against the people of the united states. it can be handled that way. i have every confidence in the justice department and state authorities in massachusetts to do that. >> douglas jones, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> as boston tries to return to normal, what role will sports play? the sox and bruins are about to play here today. fans are honoring the city in a very special way. back
>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow...
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. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> and in dagestan, the suspect's mother is adamant that her sons are innocent. >> what happened is a terrible thing, but i know that my kids have nothing to do with this. i know it. i am mother. >> joining us now from boston is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. and frank silufo, director of the homeland security policy institute at george washington university. good afternoon, to both of you. mike, as the investigations continue both here and oversea, we understand that investigators are confident these brothers acted alone. even as their family members express utter bafflement. what are we learning about the larger case against these suspects? >> reporter: well first of all, this is looking, martin, more and more like a case of self-radicalization. now, nothing is conclusive and, you know, we're far from the end of this investigation right now. >> of course. of course. >> reporter: but the preliminary indicators, first, you have tsarnaev saying the two
. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> and in dagestan, the suspect's mother is adamant that her sons are innocent. >> what happened is a terrible thing, but i know that my kids have nothing to do with this. i know it. i am mother. >> joining us now from boston is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. and frank silufo, director of the homeland security policy institute at george...
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we saw an ambulance arrive, and it was escorted by ten police officers and other law enforcement seen there as well, and what is the situation right now? >> reporter: there is a large security presence, not only at this hospital but at hospitals around the area there was security. we were at mass general hospital, and there was lots of security around. there are five security officers outside the hospital here, and there are two inside the hospital, and there may be more, we just don't know. these officers have been here throughout the night. they will likely continue to be here as long as the suspect is here being treated. >> to that, this guy would have to be the most wanted man in america right now. how will the hospital deal with his presence? it sounds as if he is in serious condition and he is undergoing surgery and will be there for a while. what arrangements has the hospital put in place to deal with this? >> reporter: that's a really good question. this is a man that authorities are calling a terrorists who was intent on killing people, so you can imagine the feelings of conc
we saw an ambulance arrive, and it was escorted by ten police officers and other law enforcement seen there as well, and what is the situation right now? >> reporter: there is a large security presence, not only at this hospital but at hospitals around the area there was security. we were at mass general hospital, and there was lots of security around. there are five security officers outside the hospital here, and there are two inside the hospital, and there may be more, we just don't...
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new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. it seems to me the unanswered question everybody would like to know of, number one, where did these guys test? nobody believes this was the first time they did these bombs on monday. that they must have tested them somewhere. the second, what was tamerlan, the older brother, doing in russia for six months? >> reporter: exactly. there's so many unanswered questions here. but let's start with the -- that russian report to the fbi in 2011 asking them to investigate tamerlan. what sparked that -- the russian request? what information do they have? the fbi says that the russians didn'
new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff....
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what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as the bush administration has in the past and as they have acted in other terrorist cases by using the normal criminal procedures. >> because lindsey graham and others say, yes, he should be tried as a u.s. citizen, should be tried in a u.s. civilian court, but that can await this process of doing some serious interrogation of him and designating him as an enemy combatant in the meantime. all of this is moot right now, because as you know, yesterday, he was formally given his miranda rights and a judge magistrate at his bed s
what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as...
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so law enforcement enacted basically an effort not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. that means not telling him he has the right to remain silent under what they call the public safety exception, allows them to get as much information as they can within the immediate hours after his arrest. in case there is information about other plots or perhaps other accomplices but it's li likely that he hasn't even been questioned yet because of his state, his serious condition, that this may not matter. he may have been read his miranda rights by a judge as early as tomorrow. the republican lawmakers, of course, say the public safety exception doesn't go far enough, that he should be treated as an enemy combatant. we do not want this suspect to have the right to remain silent. here is a little bit more about what they said. i'll put this graphic up on the screen. this is from a statement released by those republican lawmakers who say we have concerns limiting this investigation to 48 hours and exclusively relying on the public safety exception of miranda could very well be a nat
so law enforcement enacted basically an effort not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. that means not telling him he has the right to remain silent under what they call the public safety exception, allows them to get as much information as they can within the immediate hours after his arrest. in case there is information about other plots or perhaps other accomplices but it's li likely that he hasn't even been questioned yet because of his state, his serious condition, that this may not...
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there's political danger, law enforcement now are the heroes. don't want to second guess them too much. >> we don't know what we don't know. >> we will leave that. >>> up next, any other week, this story would have been the lead. >> all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for washington. >> the president lost a very big fight on gun control. so the question we now have, can he save it and how? >>> and outside of washington, there was a smaller, much smaller political story, but it was pretty interesting. a messy divorce, a charge of trespassing, and a former governor's political fate is on the line. you're in, that's the business we're in with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. is as much about getting there... ♪ ...as it is being there. ♪ [ birds chirping ] away is where the days are packed with wonder... ♪ [ wind whistles ] ...and the evenings are filled with familiar comforts. find your a
there's political danger, law enforcement now are the heroes. don't want to second guess them too much. >> we don't know what we don't know. >> we will leave that. >>> up next, any other week, this story would have been the lead. >> all in all, this was a pretty shameful day for washington. >> the president lost a very big fight on gun control. so the question we now have, can he save it and how? >>> and outside of washington, there was a smaller, much...
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a trying, dangerous, sleep-deprived week for the law enforcement sters. after five days of death and drama, bostonians are showing their gratitude. >> reporter: it's the high five that brings an extraordinary close to a tense manhunt. police standing down for the first time since monday's bombg. >> we have our second suspect of the boston marathon bombing in custody. >> reporter: after going door to door since monday, searching for clues, an army of law enforcement officering took down their suspect. >> because of that extraordinary collaboration and cooperation by all the law enforcement resources, we have a suspect in custody tonight. >> reporter: but police also lost one of their own. 26-year-old m.i.t. police officer sean collier, killed thursday at the hands of the brothers. finally being able to breathe a sigh of relief after so many hours holder their breath. >> i want to thank all of the partners two worked tirelessly over the last four days. we're exhausted, folks, but we have a victory here tonight. >> reporter: and still here, their job is not
a trying, dangerous, sleep-deprived week for the law enforcement sters. after five days of death and drama, bostonians are showing their gratitude. >> reporter: it's the high five that brings an extraordinary close to a tense manhunt. police standing down for the first time since monday's bombg. >> we have our second suspect of the boston marathon bombing in custody. >> reporter: after going door to door since monday, searching for clues, an army of law enforcement officering...
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the entirety of the law enforcement that worked this case should be commended for their efforts. >> reporter: court documents contain new details about thursday night's car jacking. the fbi says surveillance pictures show dzhokhar and tamerlan tsarnaev at a gas station in cambridge where they drove with the owner of the suv they carjacked. one of them, investigators say, began the carjacking by pointing a gun at the driver and saying, "did you hear about the boston explosion? i did that." the carjacker showed the driver he had bullets in the gun and said, i'm serious. at the scene of the shootout in watertown where tamerlan tsarnaev was killed other explosives were also found. in an interview for "dateline nbc," the boston police commissioner said that's one reason he thinks the brothers planned other attacks. >> we had to step over unexploded devices they threw at the officers. i can only understand from that that they had other targets. they were going other places. >> reporter: both charges today carry the death penalty as a maximum sentence. it is a long way before the justice department
the entirety of the law enforcement that worked this case should be commended for their efforts. >> reporter: court documents contain new details about thursday night's car jacking. the fbi says surveillance pictures show dzhokhar and tamerlan tsarnaev at a gas station in cambridge where they drove with the owner of the suv they carjacked. one of them, investigators say, began the carjacking by pointing a gun at the driver and saying, "did you hear about the boston explosion? i did...
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law enforcement made a mistake. they said there was an explosion at the jfk library. >> some speculation this was domestic terrorism, domestically inspired. >> i worked with colin powell, he said that first reports are never complete and never accurate. not a bad thing to remember. >> how about the question of the locking down the city of boston, congressman? you saw the mayor right there saying it was absolutely justified? >> what terrorists want to do, one of the things, other than the physical harm is the economic harm, that one day's loss of income for that area is in the hundreds of millions of dollars. so in some instance, the terrorists win there, and what we have to do is come up with the after action report. i think clearly, once we do that, there might be some alternatives. i won't second guess the governor and the mayor what they did. but one of the goals of terrorists is economic terrorism and if you look at it from that perspective they succeeded. >> and i take the mayor at his word that were reports an
law enforcement made a mistake. they said there was an explosion at the jfk library. >> some speculation this was domestic terrorism, domestically inspired. >> i worked with colin powell, he said that first reports are never complete and never accurate. not a bad thing to remember. >> how about the question of the locking down the city of boston, congressman? you saw the mayor right there saying it was absolutely justified? >> what terrorists want to do, one of the...
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recreational use remains illegal under federal law. the question, now, will the large crowds this weekend stall the movement to legalize marijuana? >> are they willing to pay the price for those experiments, with regard to have so many folks coming in from out of state? are they willing to regulate those folks the same way they regulate they're own citizens? or in this case, to not regulate them. >> reporter: something other states and marijuana supporters will be watching closely. akiko fujita, abc news, los angeles. >>> and coming up, breaking point in the rocky mountains. the harrowing tale of men who survived a massive avalanche that killed five of his friends. and what is so dangerous about this year in particular? and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. it put me at ease that you could smoke on the first week. [ male announcer ] some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, a
recreational use remains illegal under federal law. the question, now, will the large crowds this weekend stall the movement to legalize marijuana? >> are they willing to pay the price for those experiments, with regard to have so many folks coming in from out of state? are they willing to regulate those folks the same way they regulate they're own citizens? or in this case, to not regulate them. >> reporter: something other states and marijuana supporters will be watching closely....
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we are extremely proud of law-enforcement and what we have accomplished. thank you. >> i just want to save all those who sent their thoughts and prayers to officer donahue and his family. it was deeply appreciated. thank you also to commend all law enforcement agencies that took part in this. it is true dedication and commitment at its best and i am proud to be part of it. >> my name is joseph special agent of the atf. today the entire world witnessed the commitment to apprehending these offenders make no doubt this combined effort will never cease and its protection of every city, town, a neighborhood in our nation. prayers from every employee it will come out to the victims as they heal from this senseless act of violence. god bless the citizens. >> i was listening to the police action all afternoon on the radio and -- vest had a voice to those two came before me to say what an extraordinary police operation across all jurisdictions i could listen and witness today. i was at the scene early on a and in our business it is about accountability. i cannot sa
we are extremely proud of law-enforcement and what we have accomplished. thank you. >> i just want to save all those who sent their thoughts and prayers to officer donahue and his family. it was deeply appreciated. thank you also to commend all law enforcement agencies that took part in this. it is true dedication and commitment at its best and i am proud to be part of it. >> my name is joseph special agent of the atf. today the entire world witnessed the commitment to apprehending...
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there is a provision that allows in case law that allows for law enforcement to wait if they think there is a national security threat or a danger to the public until they've talked to the person and established there isn't a danger to the public or gotten the information they need. then they can read the miranda rights. that's what the fbi has done in this case. that's what they did in the new york time square bomber. that worked quite well. they talk to him for a while before they read him his rights. then they read him his rights. he kept and he provided very valuable information. we know that the traditional civilian court system founded by the founding fathers can work in this situation. >> let me ask you a couple questions. if the russian government was so concerned about tamerlan as to alert our fbi and our government, and warrant an investigation of him, why are we so sure that dzhokhar is not connected to a cell of some sort back at home that might then make him an enemy combatant and then, two, if he is name an enemy combatant and treated as an everybody me combatant, that does
there is a provision that allows in case law that allows for law enforcement to wait if they think there is a national security threat or a danger to the public until they've talked to the person and established there isn't a danger to the public or gotten the information they need. then they can read the miranda rights. that's what the fbi has done in this case. that's what they did in the new york time square bomber. that worked quite well. they talk to him for a while before they read him...
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. >> there's no such thing as a slam dunk in criminal law. but this is as close as you get. you've got video tape putting him at the scene. you have a motive in terms of what he's had to say. plus, you have a guy in a car that admissions were made to. it goes on and on. now, could he beat the death penalty? maybe that's a possibility. what should the defense's strategy be. the shoe bomber obviously now serving life, but did not get the death penalty because of your defense. what can the defense possibly do? >> well, they're going to be focused on mitigation at this point, thinking about the possibility of the death penalty. they're going to be looking into his background. they're going to be having him evaluated, potentially, by, you know, forensic evaluations, by psychologists. they're going to be looking at his state of mind. >> it seems like the defense may try to say he was under the influence of his older brother and be some way to mitigate his defense or say he is brainwashed. is there any way that can hold weight? >> good luck with that defense. that's a hail mary def
. >> there's no such thing as a slam dunk in criminal law. but this is as close as you get. you've got video tape putting him at the scene. you have a motive in terms of what he's had to say. plus, you have a guy in a car that admissions were made to. it goes on and on. now, could he beat the death penalty? maybe that's a possibility. what should the defense's strategy be. the shoe bomber obviously now serving life, but did not get the death penalty because of your defense. what can the...